Tad Safran and Molly Watson
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Tad: Why are women so dishonest?
Molly: Oh, here we go... What's brought on the bitter lemonry this time?
Tad: I just read another one of those surveys in which women rate what they look for in a man. Sense of humour is in top spot - again - when that's patently untrue.
Molly: Maybe your sense of humour isn't delivering for you, Tad, but being funny, and I mean really funny, wins women over every time.
Tad: Easy on the insults, tiger. Sense of humour is my strong point. Some would say that's all I've got. But I'm not talking about myself. In general, you don't see supermodels rubbing themselves up and down the funniest men they can find.
Molly: So how do you explain unions such as Britt Ekland and Peter Sellers, or Woody Allen and Mia Farrow, then? Or Drew Barrymore and Tom Green? Heck - Bruce Forsyth is actually married to a former Miss World.
Tad: Because they're RICH... except maybe Tom Green. And Barrymore dumped him as soon as he proved to have no earning potential whatsoever.
Molly: I give up. Are you honestly saying that when you see Britt Ekland or Mia Farrow, women who could have anyone they wanted, you STILL think they are primarily motivated by dimes and dollars?
Tad: I'm not saying being funny counts for nothing at all. But looks and money are the cake, while a sense of humour is just the icing.
Molly: You couldn't be more wrong. Women are attracted to alpha males. A man can achieve alpha-dom through pretty much any sphere - sports, business, politics, show business - and there will always be a critical mass of women who are drawn to him like iron filings to a magnet. It even applies to the stars of academia. Stephen Hawking ended up in a love triangle, for goodness' sake. But I don't think that any form of success can beat the charisma factor of making people laugh. And unlike money or position or fame, the jokes keep on coming.
Tad: Um... OK. I'm a little perplexed that you used Stephen Hawking as an illustration of funny. But here's my point: sense of humour is not the top, number one, most important attribute women look for. That would be security.
Molly: Who are these hordes of women you have identified who rate security over having a good time? And security from what? Outside a jungle or a war zone, security doesn't count for much - especially if that source of security is free to leave you for someone else.
Tad: You're kidding me. For every one beautiful woman who's married to a funny man, I can point out another 50 who are married to rich, unfunny men.
Molly: But that's a matter of statistics. It is easier to get rich than it is to be truly, charismatically funny. I also think that having a genuinely quick wit is an even rarer trait in women than it is in men - which is part of the reason women are so attracted to funny guys.
Tad: Or a sought-after attribute in a friend who can keep you entertained until you see someone you fancy. Teenage girls don't put up posters of Orlando Bloom because they think he's hilarious. And groupies don't clamour around Enrique Inglesias's dressing room door because they hear that he tells a cracking after-dinner story. Women don't want to roll in the aisles. They want to roll in the hay.
Molly: But finding someone funny is the first step to wanting to roll around in bed with them. Pubescent girls have a notoriously weakly developed sense of comedy and sex appeal (hence the fact that talentless Orlando Bloom has an acting career), so let's remove them from the equation. Real women find nothing sexier than walking into a restaurant where a guy is holding a table of his friends agog with some witty anecdote.
Tad: Look. Sense of humour is not totally unimportant. I'm just saying that women are being dishonest when they put it at the top of the list time and again.
Molly: You're wrong, of course. But do you consider men to be any more honest about their priorities?
Tad: Yes. Men consistently put “physical attractiveness” at the top of the list of what they look for in women. Men and women are equally shallow - the difference is that men admit it. Teenage boys don't plaster their walls with pictures of Angelina Jolie in a wet bikini and then pretend that it's because they admire her charity work.
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Ha-ha, good one, Sarah from London! If you ever find a rich and funny guy, ask him if he has a brother for me, would you?
Ann, Los Angeles, USA
I think that this is the wrong way to approach this. Given the choice between rich or funny it's a difficult decision for women. But if the options are handsome and utterly dull, or average looking and funny then more often than not, women will opt for funny.
M., London,
You could be a hunk with money falling out your pockets, but if you can't make me smile or laugh forget it! My hub and I had nothing but love and laughs to start, we did ok. Built our own life. 4 kids, nice house. Didn't have him long enough : (
Mo, LA, USA
Both, obviously. Haven't you got the memo, it says women want it all?
And the state supports this. In this day and age that translates to bearing children with a rich bloke then living with a funny man to raise "their" children together, whilst taking payments from Mr Rich. Isn't life bliss?
Howard, Manchester,
Completely agree with Molly. Current boyf is one of the most charismatic blokes ever and so much fun. def not conventionally attractive and I earn more than him but I adore him as we have so much fun together.
Lainey, London,
What's wrong with rich AND funny? and where are they?
Sarah, London,
Women can become rich in this society. Stop wanting a rich man!
John, London,
I think this rather simplifies the issue..! Some women genuinely do "rate" a guy highly for being funny, and that is highly linked to having a good time with him. That's not to say that is the only thing a guy needs to be to make any woman happy, and its importance will vary among women.
Carrie, London,
I think most women just want a man who is willing to provide for the family with what he has. It is more of the man's mindset than the amount of money he has. I think a witty, intelligent man who will provide for his family is preferable to a wealthy dullard.
Kaye, Memphis,
I once heard said, with a grain of truth I think, that men think a woman has a sense of humour if she laughs at his jokes, while women think a man has a sense of humour if he makes her laugh (not necessarily at formulaic jokes, that is). So, Doug, I think you might be missing the point a bit.
Sarah , Bad Liebenstein, Germany
Agree with you 100% Micky.
What women do and say are chalk and cheese. Ever noted the number of women who will protest their love of the intelligent, sensitive man with the sense of humour - who then run off with Cro-magnonesque captain of the first XV.
Mark, Berkhamsted,
so women are looking for wit, interlectual stimulous, and if he is wealthy why not, but also the alpha male, who is a kind of celebrity (i.e in the limelight) and...and ...and
I work in the City, I have seen all this before
T. Andre, London,
Goodness, this explains everything. I thought the women in my life were just impressed by my velvet sock collection and my vintage 1977 shocking pink Ford Cortina. Humour's appeal is its breaking down of pretentions and barriers. Laughter is involuntary, so its disarming. Nothing beats it!
sebastian, Greenwich, USA
I make a point in finding something to laugh at in every women I meet - if they love humour so much why am I still single?
Doug Bates, S. Albans,
The ideal man? Great sense of humour, physically attractive and happens to be rich as well. What have I ended up with? Two out of three ain't bad and I pay the bills most of the time! No, Tad, Molly is right. But if he makes me laugh AND has money, what's wrong with that?
Sarah, Bad Liebenstein, Germany
I was in the lucky position of having to choose between two guys; one a millionaire, bright, caring, gorgeous, fairly good sense of humour. The other guy earned less than I do, and was equally bright, caring, gorgeous, and we never stopped laughing when together.
I went for non-millionaire...
Caroline, Lancashire, UK
How amusing to think of divorcing a funny man without much money.
Rachel.Tomlinson, Kensington, England
Women want money they just can't admit to being so shallow. I've always been able to make people laugh but it wasn't until I had money that the girls suddenly came flocking. B4 money I was a nice guy to have around as a friend, after money I was a guy to get off with.
Peter, London, UK
I think women generally like guys with a sense of humor, especially of the self-deprecating kind as it puts them at ease as these are most likely also to be of the non-violent type as opposed to the those who take themselves seriously and cannot see the funny side of life.I could be wrong of course.
SD Goh, PJ, Malaysia
I'm neither rich nor funny so the outcome is of little interest to me, unfortunately. What woman really want, though, is to have a good moan.
John, London, UK
Women are looking for a meal ticket ..and who can blame them ...life is about survival .
Bill, Edison , USA
I think a man who can laugh when things go wrong and not rant and rave at the world is attractive. Someone who is too pompous and thinks too highly of himself is unattractive. However, you don't exactly want someone who's on benefits and has no intention of ever getting a paid job either.
Tina, Dusseldorf, Germany
Women tend go for high status in men, of which wealth is an obvious indicator, but which can also be communicated via posture, voice, self confidence or talents which command attention, eg humour. But self deprecating jokes create less attraction than cheeky, teasing humour which shows confidence.
Haverstock Bill, London,
Now the truth is out.
women would be happiest marrying a clown.
My respect for women has skyrocketed.
Jerry Scroggin, Phoenix, Arizona/USA
I agree with Tad. Women should not put humour anywhere near the top of that list.
Molly said it, that its the alpha-male appeal that women look for. How many of those famous sportsman, with their WAGS are funny?
We all here them being interviewed, or commentating on television.
What riots!
Hugh, Sandton, South Africa
Funny. Rich is nice but if you don' t like him, what's the point? Funny, because there are a lot more kinds of funny and not a lot of rich. He may not be funny to me but he'll be funny to someone else. Funny. My husband continues to make me laugh. and he can pay the bills. he's the best of both!
sharon, near Chicago,
so, assuming that women aren't lying...is it sense of humour or intelligence that women find attractive? is humour really a proxy for intelligence...or am i giving women way too much credit... it's the cash isn't it...
stephen, china, china
I have to agree with Tad. Women list lots of things they look for, but the evidence of who they are actually with in reality shows the opposite. It isn't that they are lying. There is a wealth of research in the psychological literature to back up Tads assertions that women say they want one thing d
Micky, Notts,